Ian spoke with Marie D. Jones about what we can expect in 2012 and what it may be like in the year 2013. Jones went through some of the common worst case scenarios (asteroid impact, pole shift, supervolcano eruption) for December 21, 2012, and Ian invited callers to phone in with their theories about what will happen on that date. Jones said she does not think any naturally-occuring, world-ending event will take place in 2012. For Jones, the worst case scenario will be human driven, possibly a nuclear war. Jones and Ian also talked about the discrepancy between the Mayan calendar and the Gregorian calendar.

Jones envisioned what life may be like in the year 2013. She expressed concern about the continued acceleration of technology and how it could interfere with our ability to connect with each other. She also discussed the threat of global climate change and the role of traditional western religions in the future. According to Jones, there will be an increasing resistance toward religion as we approach 2013. People will embrace spirituality, not religion, she said. Jones expects a transformation of consciousness on a global scale by 2013, and hopes this will awaken people to their full potential as human beings.